Provincial Letters

Far from the mad crowds of the city, Blaise Pascal passed comment on the strange behaviour of this urban contemporaries in his Provincial Letters. The connection between them and this blog is somewhat tenuous.

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Friday, February 03, 2006

Posted @ 17:24Music In Pubs

The following letter recently (Wednesday, 1st February 2006) appeared in The Guardian:

"In 2001-03, I worked as the Musicians' Union adviser on licensing reform, trying to persuade politicians to introduce more liberal legislation for live music (Songs of experience: folk music might be cool again - but what matters more is that it's the voice of the people, January 30). Unfortunately, most Labour MPs proved to be lobby fodder. They were whipped into submission, so there was no hope of music-friendly amendments in the Commons. But by the summer of 2003, a coalition of Conservative and Lib Dem peers were backing an MU proposed amendment that would have exempted small venues from entertainment licensing for live music, provided the music finished by 11.30pm. This exemption was also backed by the Arts Council and the music industry. But the government shot it down, citing the Association of Police Officers that "live music always acts as a magnet in whatever community it is being played. It brings people from outside that community who, having no connection locally behave in a way that is inappropriate, criminal and disorderly". This was read into the Hansard record. So law and order would appear to be the rationale for criminalising the provision of innocuous music-making in bars, unless licensed."
Hamish Birchall

It appears that, according to the Association of Police Officers, that every instance of live music results in behaviour that is "inappropriate, criminal and disorderly" because of these "outside elements".

A number of my regular readers were at the Tap & Spile, Grimsby, on Tuesday night when this "magnet" resulted in a lot of people having a really nice time. If anyone can remember the "inappropriate, criminal and disorderly" behaviour that the Association of Police Officers assure us is the consequence of such gatherings, I should be glad to have my no doubt faulty memory refreshed. They may also be able to remind me of all the trouble that I seem to have missed at the many other live music events in the Tap (and other places) over the past few years.

The only thing which occurs to me that can explain this contradiction is that the Association of Police Officers believes that the very act of performing live music is "inappropriate, criminal and disorderly". This also appears to be the government view. There must be a great conspiracy in the media which prevents us hearing bout the "inappropriate, criminal and disorderly" behaviour of audiences at the Royal Opera House, the Royal Festival Hall, etc., which actively encourage "people from outside that community" who have "no connection locally".

I have e-mailed the Association of Police Officers (see: with a link to this posting and look forward to their comments.


Blogger Seany said...

I wasn't there on the night in question but as a regular attendee (if not contributor!) I would heartily agree that it does act as a magnet bringing people from far and wide outside of the community - that is part of it's charm and one of the reasons for it's continued success. Perhaps rather than "inappropriate" behaviour, perhaps the notion of adults having a good time without disturbing innocent people around them is more of an "unusal" activity in many of the other licensed establishments in the town centre.

Mon Feb 06, 08:02:00 pm GMT 
Blogger Richard Papps said...

Yes, I remember an occasion of "inappropriate, criminal and disorderly behaviour" at a recent Open Mic night. Someone knicked my beer! Not sure if it was taken by an "outside element" or not but it seems obvious to me that these musical gatherings will have to be banned!

Sun Mar 05, 01:16:00 pm GMT 
Blogger Seany said...

Hi there

I'm afraid that for being one of my few regular readers, you've been tagged! It's only a bit of fun - check out my blog for details.


Fri Apr 21, 08:25:00 am BST 

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